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Shared Host Q
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Rich
2010-07-13 04:16:19 UTC
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Hi,

A couple of my domains are hosted on servers which host lots of other
domains at the same IP address.

These other domains are not mine, and in one case there's literally hundreds
of domain names at the same IP address.

Does this make any difference whatsoever to rankings?

On another host, I have 10 different unrelated websites hosted together as
above, but withing the same hosting plan (effectively all in different
folders on the same server of the main website). Do my rankings suffer as a
result?
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Rich
http://www.newforest-guide.co.uk
John Bokma
2010-07-12 18:10:26 UTC
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Post by Rich
Hi,
A couple of my domains are hosted on servers which host lots of other
domains at the same IP address.
These other domains are not mine, and in one case there's literally hundreds
of domain names at the same IP address.
Does this make any difference whatsoever to rankings?
On another host, I have 10 different unrelated websites hosted together as
above, but withing the same hosting plan (effectively all in different
folders on the same server of the main website). Do my rankings suffer as a
result?
Guess: yes, but very, very little. I think there are several factors
that play a much stronger role. Your situation is not that different
from millions of web sites out there. If Google was very harsh with
punishing those sites one only has to get a single site on a fixed IP
address and would rank near the top.

With questions like these I always ask three questions:

1) what is it to the visitor?
2) if it's true/false how would that affect the Internet?
3) how can spammers take advantage of this?
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John Bokma j3b

Hacking & Hiking in Mexico - http://johnbokma.com/
http://castleamber.com/ - Perl & Python Development
Rich
2010-07-13 18:21:43 UTC
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Post by John Bokma
Post by Rich
Hi,
A couple of my domains are hosted on servers which host lots of other
domains at the same IP address.
These other domains are not mine, and in one case there's literally hundreds
of domain names at the same IP address.
Does this make any difference whatsoever to rankings?
On another host, I have 10 different unrelated websites hosted together as
above, but withing the same hosting plan (effectively all in different
folders on the same server of the main website). Do my rankings suffer as a
result?
Guess: yes, but very, very little. I think there are several factors
that play a much stronger role. Your situation is not that different
from millions of web sites out there. If Google was very harsh with
punishing those sites one only has to get a single site on a fixed IP
address and would rank near the top.
1) what is it to the visitor?
2) if it's true/false how would that affect the Internet?
3) how can spammers take advantage of this?
--
John Bokma
j3b
Hacking & Hiking in Mexico - http://johnbokma.com/
http://castleamber.com/ - Perl & Python Development
John,

A really good thoght provoking answer, thanks for that.

I actually checked the sites in your sig before asking the Q and noted those
are the only 2 at that IP address.

--
Rich
http://www.newforest-guide.co.uk
John Bokma
2010-07-12 20:25:45 UTC
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Post by Rich
John,
A really good thoght provoking answer, thanks for that.
I actually checked the sites in your sig before asking the Q and noted those
are the only 2 at that IP address.
Yup, the advantage of a VPS. I can recommend them (Slicehost) but you
have to know quite a bit of Linux. In the future there might be more
sites hosted on the same IP address but most likely never more than 10.
--
John Bokma j3b

Hacking & Hiking in Mexico - http://johnbokma.com/
http://castleamber.com/ - Perl & Python Development
Scott Bryce
2010-07-13 13:31:38 UTC
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Post by John Bokma
Yup, the advantage of a VPS. I can recommend them (Slicehost)
If you can afford the additional hosting costs, a VPS is wonderful. I
use ServInt.
Post by John Bokma
but you have to know quite a bit of Linux.
I am not a Linux guru at all, and I get by. But I am paying a little
extra every month for some level of management by ServInt. That is why I
chose to go with them.
John Bokma
2010-07-13 18:25:05 UTC
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Post by Scott Bryce
Post by John Bokma
Yup, the advantage of a VPS. I can recommend them (Slicehost)
If you can afford the additional hosting costs, a VPS is wonderful. I
use ServInt.
Post by John Bokma
but you have to know quite a bit of Linux.
I am not a Linux guru at all, and I get by. But I am paying a little
extra every month for some level of management by ServInt. That is why I
chose to go with them.
Yup, ServInt was on my list of VPS providers to switch to. I was in a
shared hosting plan for many years, and I was paying more for hosting 2
sites than I do now (20 USD/month right now, which is less than I used
to pay). I did have to learn how to set up email sending/receiving
software [1], but the amount of spam has dropped drastically, so it was well
worth the time.


[1] SliceHost has a lot of very well written tutorials on their site on
how to set up things. But my needs were a little different, so I had to
study a bit more. But still, their tutorials did help me out a lot.
--
John Bokma j3b

Hacking & Hiking in Mexico - http://johnbokma.com/
http://castleamber.com/ - Perl & Python Development
Rich
2010-07-14 19:21:51 UTC
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Post by John Bokma
Post by Scott Bryce
Post by John Bokma
Yup, the advantage of a VPS. I can recommend them (Slicehost)
If you can afford the additional hosting costs, a VPS is wonderful. I
use ServInt.
Post by John Bokma
but you have to know quite a bit of Linux.
I am not a Linux guru at all, and I get by. But I am paying a little
extra every month for some level of management by ServInt. That is why I
chose to go with them.
Yup, ServInt was on my list of VPS providers to switch to. I was in a
shared hosting plan for many years, and I was paying more for hosting 2
sites than I do now (20 USD/month right now, which is less than I used
to pay). I did have to learn how to set up email sending/receiving
software [1], but the amount of spam has dropped drastically, so it was well
worth the time.
[1] SliceHost has a lot of very well written tutorials on their site on
how to set up things. But my needs were a little different, so I had to
study a bit more. But still, their tutorials did help me out a lot.
--
John Bokma
j3b
Hacking & Hiking in Mexico - http://johnbokma.com/
http://castleamber.com/ - Perl & Python Development
Great responses... and for the record I think I have my answer. I'm already
doing the shared host thing. The next couple of sites I'll do as single IP
addresses. Probably with both suggestions although Linux isn't my strong
point.

I strongly suspect it will make no difference, but will report back here
either way in a couple of months.

Regards,

Rich
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http://www.newforest-guide.co.uk

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