submitting url to Google

[Joe]

Dear a.i.s-e subscribers and seo gurus,

I have read that Google is rather picky about what new websites they allow
into their search engine database. I submitted my URL to Bing and Yahoo,
and that worked fine. But no dice (yet) on Google. I've only submitted it
once to Google so far. I've been editing and building my website everyday
since, with root-directory back-linked photo on home page, relevant keywords,
all clean and entirely devoid of anything naughty, mean or controversial.

I also have a low-activity facebook page that shows up first on Google when
I type only my first and last name and the word "facebook" in the "Find web
pages that have... all these words" field on the advanced search page. So
I added my new website link on my Facebook page, inviting my about two dozen
"facebook friends" to visit my website and leave comments via my guestbook,
hoping that might help. If all goes well, I'm hoping friends will exchange
reciprocal links from their clean websites, presumably to our mutual benefit
with regard to search engine PR. So this may take some time before I
attempt to re-submit my URL to Google, as I've read that Google only gives
you about five tries before Google puts the kybosh on your unlisted URL.

So my question is this: Once I've built up my website with quality reading,
graphics, photos, links, visitor comments etc., would it be best to submit
my URL directly through the Google website (again), or should I try one of
those free "middle-man" type multiple search engine submission servers?

--
Joe

[John Bokma]

Post by Joe
So my question is this: Once I've built up my website with quality reading,
graphics, photos, links, visitor comments etc., would it be best to submit
my URL directly through the Google website (again), or should I try one of
those free "middle-man" type multiple search engine submission servers?
--

^ fix your signature separator (it's missing a space and...)

Post by Joe
Joe

^ add a link to your site here.

There is no need to "submit to Google" if you can get a few links here
and there pointing to your site. It just takes a little time. With
submit to Google it can take about 6 weeks (or so I've read).

So I recommend to

a) get links on the site(s) of friends (more so if sites are related
with your content)
b) keep writing good content
c) if you keep posting on Usenet, add the link to your signature
(and have a space after the -- )

[Joe]

Post by John Bokma

Post by Joe
So my question is this: Once I've built up my website with quality reading,
graphics, photos, links, visitor comments etc., would it be best to submit
my URL directly through the Google website (again), or should I try one of
those free "middle-man" type multiple search engine submission servers?
--

^ fix your signature separator (it's missing a space and...)

Post by Joe
Joe

^ add a link to your site here.
There is no need to "submit to Google" if you can get a few links here
and there pointing to your site. It just takes a little time. With
submit to Google it can take about 6 weeks (or so I've read).
So I recommend to
a) get links on the site(s) of friends (more so if sites are related
with your content)
b) keep writing good content
c) if you keep posting on Usenet, add the link to your signature
(and have a space after the -- )

Thank you for the timely and helpful reply. I do subscribe to other Usenet groups
and web site discussion groups, but my website isn't nearly far enough along yet
to add below my "-- " sig. Once it gets enough links and relevant content to get
listed on Google, I will include the URL at the end of future posts.

I'm glad I asked about re-submitting to Google, because I didn't know that
re-submitting a URL to Google was unnecessary. I'll just continue building and
editing the site, and hope that some my friends will add a link to it from their
clean websites.

Also, thanks for the tip about the space "-- " seperator. I've been posting for
many years to Usenet news groups, but that's the first I've learned about that.

Post by John Bokma
From now on, a single space following "--" it is!

[Joe]

snip

Sorry for the unexpected misattribution in my previous reply, at the last
line ">". It doesn't appear in my saved outbox message. As an experiment,
I'll try posting in a test group to try and figure it out.

[www.1-script.com]

responding to
http://www.1-script.com/forums/submitting-url-to-Google-article57803--1.htm

Post by Joe
with regard to search engine PR. So this may take some time before I
attempt to re-submit my URL to Google, as I've read that Google only gives
you about five tries before Google puts the kybosh on your unlisted URL.

This is the first time I ever heard about a limit on the number of
submissions of a URL to Google. It has been a few years since I tried to
submit one though. There are BY FAR more convenient ways to do it now.

Investigate a possibility to use sitemaps ( Google's take on those:
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=183668 ) and
submit the sitemap every time there is a change on the site. Well,
actually, even when there isn't, I don't believe there is any detriment to
submitting it daily via a cron job or some other scheduling means. The
benefit of having a sitemap is that you can submit the same sitemap to
Google, Y!, Bing and Ask and potentially to any other search engine out
there (is there still someone else out there?) to help them discover your
URLs.

All of the above is about DISCOVERING the URLs, it has very little do to
with RANKING those. Well, I mean, if they aren't discovered, they cannot
rank for anything, but even after they've been discovered and visited by
the search engine bot, there is still a long way to go until they will
start appearing in search results.





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[Joe]

Post by www.1-script.com
responding to
http://www.1-script.com/forums/submitting-url-to-Google-article57803--1.htm

Post by Joe
with regard to search engine PR. So this may take some time before I
attempt to re-submit my URL to Google, as I've read that Google only gives
you about five tries before Google puts the kybosh on your unlisted URL.

This is the first time I ever heard about a limit on the number of
submissions of a URL to Google. It has been a few years since I tried to
submit one though. There are BY FAR more convenient ways to do it now.

I suppose there lots of urban myths and rumors floating around. I
don't recall where I heard the "five strikes your out."

Post by www.1-script.com
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=183668 ) and
submit the sitemap every time there is a change on the site. Well,
actually, even when there isn't, I don't believe there is any detriment to
submitting it daily via a cron job or some other scheduling means. The
benefit of having a sitemap is that you can submit the same sitemap to
Google, Y!, Bing and Ask and potentially to any other search engine out
there (is there still someone else out there?) to help them discover your
URLs.

I have heard of sitemaps before, but never tried setting one up. I just
googled for sitemap generator , and separately for sitemap validator .
That ought to keep me busy for a while. Thank you for the tip.

Post by www.1-script.com
All of the above is about DISCOVERING the URLs, it has very little do to
with RANKING those. Well, I mean, if they aren't discovered, they cannot
rank for anything, but even after they've been discovered and visited by
the search engine bot, there is still a long way to go until they will
start appearing in search results.

I didn't know of that. So my new site might already have been discovered
and visited, but I'll just have to keep plugging away until the Google
magic happens.

[Ignoramus4438]

Google will find your site when some page of even minor importance
links to it. I never submit any sites in google.

i

[Rich]

Post by Joe
Dear a.i.s-e subscribers and seo gurus,
I have read that Google is rather picky about what new websites they allow
into their search engine database. I submitted my URL to Bing and Yahoo,
and that worked fine. But no dice (yet) on Google. I've only submitted it
once to Google so far. I've been editing and building my website everyday
since, with root-directory back-linked photo on home page, relevant keywords,
all clean and entirely devoid of anything naughty, mean or controversial.
I also have a low-activity facebook page that shows up first on Google when
I type only my first and last name and the word "facebook" in the "Find web
pages that have... all these words" field on the advanced search page. So
I added my new website link on my Facebook page, inviting my about two dozen
"facebook friends" to visit my website and leave comments via my guestbook,
hoping that might help. If all goes well, I'm hoping friends will exchange
reciprocal links from their clean websites, presumably to our mutual benefit
with regard to search engine PR. So this may take some time before I
attempt to re-submit my URL to Google, as I've read that Google only gives
you about five tries before Google puts the kybosh on your unlisted URL.
So my question is this: Once I've built up my website with quality reading,
graphics, photos, links, visitor comments etc., would it be best to submit
my URL directly through the Google website (again), or should I try one of
those free "middle-man" type multiple search engine submission servers?
--
Joe

Have you got sitemap in XML and a Google Account?

Try http://www.xml-sitemaps.com/ and
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl=en .

Create a site map (xml), upload it, then submit using Webmaster tools.
You'll get into Google really quick. (Whether you rank well is another
issue.......)

...and adding your website to your sig on here will have the effect that
if any scraper sites harvest your post and it becomes a webpage (it
will) you have a (low value) backlink.

--
Rich
http://www.rhodes-kolymbia.co.uk
http://www.rhodes-lardos.co.uk/